Salonistas Comment on the Salon experience 2015

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After the intensive, multi-month studies of Ulysses and Proust, participants were asked to comment on their experience of the Salon…

How would you describe the Salon experience? 

Politely wild.

Surpassed my expectations….It’s been terrific, stimulating and well-structured. You lead us in the most gentle and firm way.

Starting by facing a wall with a closed door and no key–ending in a wonderful gander on the other side.

always enjoy it. ..ultimately though love being able to read this book as part of a group and infact think it the only way to read it.
if i were to carry on doing this i would like to look at the various stylistic devices and motifs etc that are employed.
not so much what joyce is doing but how he is doing it. which is going to be difficult because I’m not really sure what he’s doing- but i jeep thinking the conversation can easily go the way of what he is doing – when there is a lot of richness in the historical detail, myths and techniques etc.

Very positive.

Beforehand I have not met anyone who had read Ulysses to the end and without the Salon I am sure I would have counted myself amongst that number.

Ulysses is not easy to read and understand and the sessions helped enormously, to the extent that I can now see why it is such a great book, which is not how I felt at the beginning.

It has exceeded my expectations. I had high expectations of the ‘standard’ of the Salon as far as the knowledge of the text and supporting materials go and this was certainly met. In addition however, it has been a very positive experience in that the atmosphere of the Salon is so permissive and generous, and that the Director and participants are such lovely people.

Being in a group was also good though I prefer the sessions when there not more than 6 present.  More than that and the sessions lose their focus.

I remember Toby saying on one occasion how she’s seen people open up during the course of the study and my own experience of the Salon relates to this. Prior to the study, and still at times on individual sessions, I have been wary to speak out for several reasons, but the fact that the group is so open-minded allows for even the most poorly prepared explorations of the text. It is interesting also to see how we as a group have developed the reading and understanding together, and how much, variably, clearer/richer/more layered it appears than when reading it in solitude.

If anything I think we covered too much in each session.  The chapters are long, too long to read comfortably in a week and contain too much to be discussed properly in a session.  We needed more time.  If I had a choice I would have preferred the course to last twice as long so we could have delved more deeply into the symbolism and had explained those parts which were incomprehensible.  That we did not have enough time was a great pity.  In the end I feel we only scratched the surface of the book.

What was good was how the group jelled into a cohesive group.  It is perhaps obvious that it would do so but nevertheless it was pleasing to be part of this.

Overall most enjoyable and always of interest with lots of  stimulating content. It more than met my expectations and kept me on my toes.

 

The venue in a private house lends the proceedings a more informal air and presents as less intimidating that a formal classroom setting. On the other hand, there is less space to hide and therefore puts greater pressure on one as a participant to do a bit of homework. It’s  not so easy to ‘wing it’ really.

Housekeeping One day Salon Intensive

“To crave and to have are as like as a thing and its shadow. For when does a berry break upon the tongue as sweetly as when one longs to taste it, and when is the taste refracted into so many hues and savors of ripeness and earth, and when do our senses know any thing so utterly as when we lack it? And here again is a foreshadowing — the world will be made whole. For to wish for a hand on one’s hair is all but to feel it. So whatever we may lose, very craving gives it back to us again.”
― Marilynne Robinson, Housekeeping
 Housekeeping cover

On July 1st I will be offering an afternoon/evening London Salon study of Marilyn Robinson’s haunting first work, Housekeeping. Each line is so carefully crafted and ice-sharp- through Ruth’s narration we learn more about the impermanence of things- people, places, home- and watch her struggle to adulthood with the awareness that nothing stays in place. Ruth’s Aunt Sylvie tries to guide her, but Sylvie cannot break the habits of transience: crackers in her pocket, coat always worn inside, shoes under her pillow- ultimately the home they share welcomes the outdoors- leaves rattle in the corners, birds nest in the cupboards. There is a freedom found here- and this book reveals profound possibilities in a spare world. In a previous study found ourselves immersed in questions around ‘right’ parenting, interior vs. exterior worlds, freedom and its cost, resurrection and apocalypse. But this listing of terms seems to reduce the conversation- ultimately Robinson’s gift is to expand out ideas about the deepest moorings of our being.  Below I offer some of the feedback  from Paris Salons and words from the book itself. It is a magical read. Please register for this one meeting Salon intensive using the Paypal button below. 

Housekeeping by Marilynne Robinson 

6:30- 10 PM Wednesday July 1st

*One meeting Salon Intensive involves discussing the entire book over the course of the evening. We will break for a potluck meal part way through the work.




Feedback:

I have been meditating for years to loosen those boundaries we mentioned last night between real and imagined, (maybe to transubstantiate ????) and this was the first time all of it seemed to come up in a book.  I so appreciated the flow and the resonance of our discussion, that we all knew what we were talking about and had yet another point of view on the same scene.

What a rollercoaster ride! Sometimes I felt as if Robinson took us so far under (or upside down) that we wouldn’t be able to come up for air. But Toby was there with her rubber ducks and rescue buoys.

First a thousand thanks for the reading of that extraordinary book and for such a deep, wide ranging and enriching discussion on Saturday! I did want us read out aloud the following, which I felt was one of the most extraordinary  – in every sense of the word – and highly significant passages in the book. But somehow there was so much being said there didn’t seem to be time to put this forward!  Chapter 4, P. 73 in Faber edition:

(This is during the flood of Fingerbone)

“During those days Fingerbone was strangely transformed. If one should be shown odd fragments arranged on a silver tray and be told, ‘That is a splinter from the True Cross, and that is a nail paring dropped by Barabbas, and that is a bit of lint from under the bed where Pilate’s wife dreamed her dream,’ the very ordinariness of the things would recommend them. Every spirit passing through the world fingers the tangible and mars the mutable, and finally has come to look and not to buy. So shoes are worn and hassocks are sat upon and finally everything is left where it was and the spirit passes on, just as the wind in the orchard picks up the leaves from the ground as if there were no other pleasure in the world but brown leaves, as if it would deck, clothe, flesh itself in flourishes of dusty brown apple leaves, and then drop them all in a heap at the side of the house and goes on. So Fingerbone, or such relics of it as showed above the mirroring waters, seemed fragments of the quotidian held up to our wondering attention, offered somehow as proof of their own significance.” 

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